Yes I had a premonition a while back and bought the type of shovel that works like the road grader does (I think) You just push the damn stuff away without lifting much. If I was smart enough I'd take a picture of my place with all the snow on it and upload it to my computer and post it. But while I do put my pics on my computer I don't know how to make them small enough to upload it to this site. It aborts the pic and says its too big.And they are jpeg too just like my charts. Go figure.........