Hit the nail on the head there. I am always curious as to the 'how' as well but wading through data I'm not familiar with the only numbers I kept that were usable to me were those 4 dates 9 months apart (273 days) as Roger stated. The rest of it is beyond me basically. So I agree give the dates and as a side not separately the 'how' for those that can comprehend it all. In time if followed enough most will get the 'how'. For now I'd just like to see more 15% of the J&S 20yr cycle times.(if I got that right) And I'm really curious about the earlier date of 9 months 'before' his 1st important date of Dec8/08. I'd like to know if that was a turn date as well as you can see on the chart it was a very minor correction. This is very important to quantify. If any of these 'can be' minor in nature a trader should be aware of this and be far more cautious than if it is strongly likely to be a major move. Hopefully this makes sense.