I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the eastern gobbery gooble; they have given us candles, from the early days of rice trading, which provide insight into the trader mindset. Not the whole ticket, but a clue.

As for methods, who managed to make better than a living from the markets?

Elliot...........NO

Gann............NO

Astrologers........NO

Fibonacchi..........NO

Wyckoff...........YES

Donchian (Turtles)............YES

The writing is on the wall, but will most likely take nothing short of a 2X4 accross the head to drive the point home.

Let the tyros try to tighten parameters, in the quest for 'risk control', way beyond reasonable in markets; a fools game.

I really like the Tyler pic, it does accentuate credibility; a fellow who had one too many pieces of humble pie...........an expert. Nothing like experience to drive the point home.

Maybe you need to ease up a bit, might free up your pipes.. CO