Thanks Wayne, another excellent chartise by any standards. I was even able to find the other right side of the page insert. Some days I have to check real close to make sure that truly is a "hole in the ground". I will watch for the retrace as you suggest. The funnymentals suggest the cotton crop is weak this year. As for the hog market, I can't get them hogs to go very far either way. No trade there. I am in a long term learning curve. I hope to retire in about five more years, then maybe have time to lose my money slowly. I only make two or three trades per year now. I am short the corn market at present. Looks good so far, but who knows. You always teach me something new and I appreciate that. Trades is also very good, but he tends to chide me, which is good. He is pretty smart for someone from the "other" upper right hand corner, you know.