My nephew is really into the black scary guns. He has tens of thousands into them. I asked him about Daniel Defense, which can be had for under fifteen hundy ... He told me that he had outgrown them YEARS ago.

I have a Remington 700, bull barrel, in .223 .... Even for a bolt action, very little recoil ... kind of a sissy gun ... but the ammunition is SO cheap ... I just had to get something chambered in it.

I might pick up a couple of carbines ... one in 9mm and one in .45 ACP ... If you get the right ones, with collapsible stocks, etc., they're all black and scary ...